Hair Replacement Suggestions in Canada?

Discussion in 'Wigs and Toppers' started by Nikks3, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Hello,

    I am a hair loss sufferer living in Vancouver, BC Canada. I've been checking out other members pic's of their toppers and hair pieces and they all look so natural and wonderful! I think I may be getting to the point where I am considering getting a topper. I'm just wondering if anyone else there has any suggestions for those of us in Canada....on good places to go??
  2. harmoni

    harmoni New Member

    Hi there,
    I'm also looking for a good hair replacement place and at that stage. I just want to know how you are doing and at what stage you're at. Looking for people in Vancouver to share ideas with.
  3. yarnspinner

    yarnspinner New Member

    Hair pieces for women

    Hi, Harmoni;

    I am in Canada on the prairies. I ordered my hair piece on line and am very happy with it. It is like a little toupe' that I can pull my own hair through to blend it and it clips on securely so that it isn't obvious on windy days. I purchased the Modest Touch, but there are other options. Here's the link:
    http://www.paulayoung.com/category/hairpieces/front & top integration piece.do?nType=2

    My hair is very dark so the very dark brown shade worked perfectly for me. A friend had a little more difficulty finding the right shade in a medium brown.

    Hope I was able to help.
    :)
  4. harmoni

    harmoni New Member

    Hi Yarnspinner
    Thank you so much for your reply and link. They look reasonably priced too. I'm really glad you found one that works for you. I will look at this in detail. Hope you're keeping well.
  5. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Hi Harmoni,

    I've been suffering with hair loss for the past two years. It started after I stopped taking the birth control pill (Yasmin) and the shedding has never stopped. I just keep losing more and more hair. I had PRP Therapy late September and my shed has decreased a bit, but I still shed more than normal....about 100 hairs per day. Since October I noticed a definite decrease in the density of my hair. This is the least amount of hair I have ever had. I use Toppik daily and although can get by with Toppik and people would think I have a normal head of hair, I have probably lost more than 50%. I used to have really thick, long, curly hair, now it's cut close to a pixie.

    I have been researching a lot about hair replacement systems....took a look at Reprieve Hair, as some people on this site liked it, but I'm not sure yet if I want to wear a hair piece. I found the site Panorama Hair on Hornby Street. They offer treatment for thinning hair, but also do integrated hair pieces, wigs etc...they use a product called Cyberhair. I looked up Cyberhair on the internet and the Micro Point Links look promising. I think there are some girls on here that have had them put in. They are tiny, tiny hair extensions attached to your own hair with a knot. You can hardly detect them. I'm a little weary to use extensions, since my hair comes out very easily, but these look the least damaging out of anything. At any rate, I have an appointment at this place tomorrow. I'm going to go check it out and see if I think they're scammers, or not. (I've been to DuBrule's before and they are complete shit. Complete highway robbery). The business has been around for quite awhile and they have pretty much no complaints on the better business bureau. I also spoke to the owner (there is a picture of him on the website) on the phone and it is a 'family owned' company, and not a chain...so I like that. I will report back my opinions after my appointment and let you know if I decided to purchase anything.

    Just as an FYI, I have tried just about everything for my hair, aside from using Minoxodil or taking Propecia. I saw renowned Dermatologist and hair specialist, Dr. Jerry Shapiro and he was a complete jerk. They did do a scalp biopsy in Feb 2010 and it came back as telogen effluvium, but I'm pretty sure I also have AGA, as I do have spindly hairs that come out regularly, plus the fact that my hair has never grown back. There is no hair loss in my family. I am currently taking an herbal DHT blocker (main ingredient saw palmetto and reservatrol), B-vitamins, Calcium citrate and Goji Juice. The other thing that I started doing in July is I started going for laser treatment. I didn't see any drastic changes, but I do think it was helping. I stopped the laser treatment right after I got PRP done (end of September), and I've noticed a huge difference in my hair. I'm not sure if it was the PRP, or stopping the laser, but I am going to start doing the laser again. I know there's lots of people on this forum that don't believe lasers work, but there is evidence that it is good for the health of the scalp and does promote circulation. That is another thing that I'm going to check out at Panorama, because they do offer laser treatment. I've been going to TLC Hair Loss Clinic in Surrey, but the owner just raised the prices and I think they're charging too much, so I'm going to scope it out at Panorama.

    I'll update after my appointment.

    Cheers.
  6. harmoni

    harmoni New Member

    How it the appointment go? I was recommended to go to Dubruel's as well but haven't yet. I was told by the same doctor that laser is not going to work, but yours is a different experience.
    I know what you mean about losing hair. The doctor admits I've lost quite a bit since baseline. Do you mind telling me name of the herbal DHT blocker you're taking? I wasn't able to take spironolactone due to other health problems.
    I'm so glad I found someone else in Vancouver to talk to, been looking for a while to connect with others.
  7. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Hi Harmoni,

    I went to Panaroma today. It is a small place and I spoke with the owner. I'm not sure what to think about it. They do have laser there, but the unit they have has less laser diodes than at the place I was doing laser before. However, the place I was doing laser before charges way too much, in my opinion. This place is much cheaper.

    I asked him about the cyberhair micro point links and he told me that if my hair is shedding, he wouldn't recommend it, as the links will likely fall out and it would be a waste of money. He recommended doing laser for three months to see if the shedding decreases and then maybe think about the micro point links.......

    I'm not sure what to do. I honestly don't know if my shedding will ever stop, or go back to normal. I have tried absolutely everything.....

    I may try the laser at this new place for three months and see what happens with my hair. I'm also thinking about getting the micro point links anyhow....one application is $350 and they add 700 hairs to your head. I kind of feel like if I try the laser, I'd like to get the micro point links, just so I feel like I have more hair in the interim. If they fall out, they fall out.

    If the laser doesn't do anything, then I think in three months I will be looking to get a topper or a hair system, maybe reprieve, maybe a wig....

    All I know is I just can't bear this anymore. It is killing me. I am in medical school and I took a leave from school in March (2010) because I couldn't cope with the hair loss. I am going back this January and my hair is the worst it has ever been. I just want to start living again and not wake up every morning with a knot in my stomach thinking about how much hair I'm going to lose in the day.

    Don't even bother going to Du Brule's. They are total crooks. The consultants are salespeople and all they try to do is sell you their products as well as laser combs. I would agree with your doctor that laser combs do nothing, but I do think the lasers at treatment centres are helpful, as they have more diodes and are way stronger. But everyone has a different experience. I have a friend who has had AGA since her early twenties and the only thing that helped her was laser treatment. So to each their own.

    Who are you seeing for your hair? And how is your hair now? Are you taking any treatments?
  8. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Sorry, the herbal DHT blocker I am taking is called HLCC Scripts Complete. I have been taking it since July. I really don't know if it has done anything for me though.....A month after I started taking it, my shedding maybe decreased a bit, but I was also doing laser at that point. I'm scared to stop taking it, as I am afraid I might get more shedding, so alas I take it twice everyday. The main ingredient is saw palmetto, but it also has Ho Sho wu (a chinese herb) and marine concentrate in it, which is similar to Viviscal. Along with Biotin, folate, Pantothenic acid, zinc etc.....
  9. harmoni

    harmoni New Member

    Hi Nikks3
    Thanks for posting about the herbal blocker and about your experience with Cyber hair micro. If it feels right to you then you should go with them. For me, I think I'm going the wig route. I have a really ugly topper that I put on for the first time to go out the other day. And you know what? it felt "good" in a way that I didn't have to worry about people looking at the gaps in my scalp. I will get a better wig. It will be expensive as I'm not covered but I think it'd be worth it. Regardless it's a tough adjustment.
    I'm seeing same doctor as you have. Minoxidil has done nothing for me but given me side effects. Tried biotin, silica, herbal supplements to no avail. I know what you're going through. If you ever want to private message me I'd welcome that. It feels good to have a contact here in Vancouver - I've been looking for a support group but can't seem to find one. Hope you've had a nice Christmas.
  10. yarnspinner

    yarnspinner New Member

    Hi, harmoni;

    After reading your post above, I just wanted to let you know that in my case it took 18 months for Minoxidil to work. I would think it was working, and then I'd get another shed. I went to 3 periods of shedding, but persevered with the Minoxidil 5% as there really weren't any other options. Plus my dermatologist had told me that I wouldn't know for sure if it would work for me for 2 years and I had promised to stick with it that long.

    Each time my hair came back after a shed, it came back slightly thicker. I also tried different forms of Minoxidil. The one that seemed to work the best was a 15% concentration. Unfortunately, I could only use it for about 6 months and then I started getting heart palpatations, so I had to back off again to 5%. I now maintain my hair with a Kirkland minoxidil 5% at night, and Spectral DNC minoxidil compound in the morning.

    Just thought I'd let you know that in case it might help. I don't know what kind of side effects you were experiencing, but sometimes persevering with the treatment in a different form can help. I find the Spectral DNC-L has no side effects other than a slight warming of the scalp after applying which makes me feel like it's working. You can get it here: http://www.fabove.ca/mm5/merchant.mvc? Plus I can use it in the morning without it making my hair completely unstyle-able.

    Best wishes for success on whatever track you choose. :)
  11. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Made a decision

    Hi Harmoni,

    I went home to Calgary for Christmas and came back on the 28th. I got my hair cut on the 29th as my old hair cut was growing out and it was in that inbetween stage where it just looked awful. My hair dresser pretty much chopped all of my hair off and I hate my cut. I look horrible and it also made me realize just how much hair I have lost since October. This has pretty much made me decide that when I go back to school on January 4th I am wearing the wig I bought in the summer full-time and I am taking the plunge and trying Minoxodil. There are no other options. Dr. Shapiro's inital suggestion was Minoxodil and I've put it off until now thinking I could get my hair back in other ways, but my hair has only become worse and worse. I know you mentioned that Minoxodil has done nothing for you, but can you tell me more about your experience? How long have you been trying it for and what percentage are you using?? WAyyy back when this whole mess started I was prescribed I think 5% liquid by a different dermatologist. I tried it for a few days and it made me get severe dandruff and I think caused more shedding so I immediately stopped. I told Dr. Shapiro this when he made the suggestion to me of using Minoxodil and he told me to try the foam, as it doesn't have PPG in it. I ordered the foam off the internet and am now waiting for it to arrive and I'm going to try it out. I don't have anything more to lose, except more hair, which would probably fall out eventually anyway.

    I know everyone's experience is different on Minoxodil, and I'm hoping I'm one of the lucky positive responders. Though, I don't have much faith left anymore, since I've tried absolutely everything else and nothing has worked. I would seriously consider taking Propecia, but my husband and I still want to have kids in the next few years and I'm not willing to risk affecting my body systemically before I get pregnant. I know a lot of people on this forum take spironolactone for their hair, but what I've read from most hair transplantation specialists is they don't recommend it for female hair loss. To be honest, I think spironolactone is what started this whole nightmare for me, as my hair loss started after I stopped Yasmin, which has spironolactone in it. I have been on and off many different BCP's before that and never had a problem with hair loss. It wasn't until Yasmin that all of my issues started. I definitely think my body has a sensitivity to Spiro, and so I'm reluctant to start putting it in my body again.

    My doctor suggested that I start back on the pill again at the same time as starting Minoxodil (she suggested Yaz), but I can't do it. I'm too afraid that the change in hormones will upset my system again and I'll be worse off. So, minoxodil it is.

    I have been a complete and utter mess since I've been back in Vancouver. Seriously, we're talking scary, suicidal mess. I am SO scared about going back to school and wearing a wig, but I just don't have a choice if I want my life to continue. I've put my life on hold for 9 months already and I can't do it for any longer if I want to continue with my education. I am SO scared of the dread shed that everyone talks about on Minoxodil, but I know it is inevitable. Anyhow, just wanted to give you an update, as my situation has seriously deteriorated. Hope you had a good Christmas and New Year and that your situation is looking better than mine.
  12. Lyric

    Lyric New Member

    Hi Guys,

    Just thought I'd jump in and say hi. I'm also in Vancouver and had an appointment with Dr. Shapiro but cancelled because of all the bad feedback about him on here and on rateyourmd.com.

    I don't know that my dermatologist is the best but at least he is good for writing prescriptions.

    As far as the decision to wear a wig before you go back to medical school, now would be the perfect time to start wearing it as it's been almost a year since people you know at school have seen you and your new classmates won't know your hair any other way.

    I too am torn about going back on minoxidil. I was on it for 3 months about 2 years ago (back when the derm though it was TE caused from going off spiro)and it didn't seem to slow the shed but I know it can take a while to work. I was thinking if I do decide to go ahead, I might order the 5% foam and give it a try. Blargh. So tough. My derm strongly encourages me to give it a try every time I see him but I'm nervous it will make things worse and screw up my scalp. Although, my scalp was fine when I used the liquid minoxidil for that 3 month period.

    I am on 200 mg a day of spiro and I have no idea whether it's made things better or worse. I don't really have any bad side effects from it but I'm not crazy about being on it for the rest of my life.

    I keep hoping that eventually the stem cell technology trials for re-growing hair will be successful and we can all have a solution to this annoying effing nightmare.

    Several women on here have mentioned how much they like the Joan Rivers hair makeup. I haven't worked up the nerve to buy it and try it but it might be an option for us all.
  13. Nikks3

    Nikks3 New Member

    Hi Lyric,

    I know you're right about the wig. That's why I've had to make a decision, because I'm due to be back in school on Jan 4th. I know if I wear it now, no one will ever know, unless I tell them, rather than not wearing it and then all of sudden show up with long hair. My hair is cut like an Emma Watson pixie right now, and my wig is long, like my hair used to be before this whole nightmare started, so people would DEFINITELY notice if I showed up one day with it on. I need to get used to wearing it, but I think after awhile it will become no big deal....hopefully.

    In terms of Minoxodil...I know some people have had success and others not at all. From what I've read at many other forums, with the 5% foam more people seem to have some kind of success, rather than not. However, you need to use it consistently for at least 6 months. I've read a ridiculous amount of posts researching it and there are a lot of women that are still in the dread shed at 3 months....but results have come soon after that. I know this is not going to be a quick solution and that I will probably have to wear my wig for the whole semester, but...I'd rather try it out, than not, because all I know is that my hair progressively is getting worse and not better. I don't think Minoxodil could make my situation worse, more likely not do much at all (worse case scenario), and even if it does, it doesn't matter, because I'm at the point where I don't feel comfortable with my hair, so I would wear a wig/topper anyhow. I also ordered Spectral DNC from reading positive posts on here and other forums, so my plan is to use the 5% foam in the morning and the Spectral DNC at night. I don't really care how it makes my hair look, as I'll be wearing my wig anyhow. If the dread shed gets REALLY bad, then I'm just going to get it over with and shave my head, so I don't have to deal with it. I NEVER thought it would ever get to this point, but then again, I NEVER thought that I would have problems with my hair....so there it is.

    I have used toppik almost everyday for the past 4 months. It is the same thing as Joan Rivers and I would highly recommend it. It's a life saver. Totally covers up the glaring scalp and makes your hair look thicker. I have a friend who has had AGA since her early twenties (she's in her mid-thirties now) and she lives on the stuff. Goes through a bottle every week I think. So I would definitely try it.

    Spiro. Spiro, spiro, spiro. What can I say?? I am so torn by this drug. From what I have read here and on other forums, it seems to do more harm than good, or nothing at all. I rarely read a success story with a women contributing the end of her hair loss woes to taking spiro. I know there are some women who swear by it, and those women make me think twice about maybe going back on it...but, my gut is telling me no. I would seriously take propecia over spiro, because at least I KNOW that is proven to reverse hair loss. I think spiro is one of those drugs that the doctors have just thrown into the mix, thinking it might work, since it is an anti-androgen (kind of like saw palmetto), and the odd time it works; but honestly, from my own personal experience, I think exposing my body to spiro is what caused me to develop a senstivity to DHT in the first place. I have been on and off bcp's at least 5 times in my life before I started taking Yasmin and never ONCE did I have an issue with my hair. It wasn't until I stopped taking Yasmin that this horrifying nightmare began, and I swear it was the spiro in Yasmin that did it. So, for me, I know it is the devil. For some women it works, but I'm staying far away from it. My only hope is Minoxodil...and it sort of makes me laugh that I am going with it now, as my last resort, because Minoxodil was what Dr. Shapiro suggested and I refused and refused. Ironically, I kind of wish I had tried when he suggested it, because at least then, I had more hair.

    In terms of Dr. Shapiro, he definitely knows his stuff; but his bedside manner leaves A LOT more to be desired. He is extremely arrogant and because he is a Faculty Member, you more often than not spend more time with his residents than Dr. Shapiro himself. He is always late. He did take pictures of my scalp the first time I went to go see him, and even though his resident told me I had AGA, Dr. Shapiro didn't think so and told me it was TE and to come back in 3 months. 3 months later my hair was still shedding, but looked a bit better so he said come back in another 3 months. Went back, hair still shedding, told me maybe we should do a biopsy if it keeps on shedding. Went back ANOTHER 3 months, hair still shedding, did a biopsy (which I had to convince them to do) and it came back as TE (he wanted to rule out diffuse alopecia)...with maybe a bit of evidence of AGA. He also did zinc, and vitamin D blood tests on me which came back normal. I am now CONVINCED I have AGA. I have miniaturized hairs, hair keeps getting thinner, doesn't grow back. He told me after the biopsy, that if he thinks my hair is getting thinner to use minoxodil. I told him that I was taking a leave from school because this was so hard on me and he erupted into a frenzy saying how ridiculous that was and that you can't even tell I'm losing my hair and that I can't stop my life, that I should be going to school and then demanded who authorized my leave. He said he never would have allowed me to take a leave if it were his decision. After being humiliated like that in his office, I never went back and I knew his suggestion wouldn't change. Minoxidil, or nothing. What I thought was interesting however, is that he never suggested I go back on the pill, or take spironolactone. Those two seem to be the arsenal that Family Doctors or endocrinologists go for.....but when I read posts by hair specialists, I have actually read that a lot of them would never suggest spironolactone as a drug to control hair loss. Propecia, minoxodil and Nizoral seem to be the 'BIG THREE' as far as what hair specialists suggest. So yah, that's my experience with Shapiro. If you think you might have something other than AGA, then it might be worth it to check him out, but if you suspect it is AGA, don't bother, because I can tell you what his suggestion will be.

    I, like you, hope that the stem cell work comes out fast. Even though I am entering the medical field and dealing with the hair problems that I have, Dermatology is not my interest. But if I hear anything about new investigations or solutions for the AGA phenomena, I will definitely keep you all posted!! I CAN NOT believe how many women this frickin disorder affects. It is staggering.....definitely an area of medicine that we have just swept under the carpet. It makes me sick just thinking about it. It has got to be one of the most horrifying experiences a women could possibly go through.....keep the faith. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger...??? (sorry for the long post).
  14. Sukhi

    Sukhi New Member

    Hair toppers/extensions/wigs

    Hello ladies.

    I'm 31 from the Vancouver Area. I've been suffering from HL since my late teens. Currently I wear a hair system, which I purchased from a lady in Langley, Maria Jaggard. She's really sweet and helpful. Although the system is great, I'm thinking when I need a replacment I will be going with a wig or some other topper, at a cheaper rate. I paid close to $2000 and I don't think I can afford that amount every 2-3 years, which is the lifespan of these sytems.

    Nonetheless, I have been doing my own research and have heard really good things about wigs by Raquel Welch. They seem to be reasonably priced and look really natural.

    If you ladies have any suggestions, please pass them along. I'm at a point where I am tired of putting on and taking off the system. I've actually ordered the Rogaine foam and will be starting it once it arrives. Am definiately looking forward to it and hope my hair does get thicker then before.

    I would love to post before/after pictures and maybe I will, but just not comfortable enough yet. I tell myself it's just hair, but my heart wont' listen. I have moments where I am really depressed, even with the system. Hopefully I get over it. I have two little girls and I pray they don't have to go through this. But the good thing else, I'll have enough information and know of treatments if that was the case. Don't know if I should be happy or sad about that-LOL.
  15. Carlotta

    Carlotta New Member

    Hair Transplant with Dr. Jerry Shapiro

    Hi,
    In December I had a hair transplant in Vancouver with Dr. Jerry Shapiro at the U.B.C. Hair Transplant Centre. $6,550 for 1200 grafts. I haven't read the comments on the website you mentioned, but I was treated with care, patience and tenderness by all the staff who worked on me from 7:15 to 3:00 p.m. The follow-up is good; I've called the clinic about questions and the staff member, Linda, gets back to me within 24 hours. Even though I'm not supposed to see growth until about the third month, new hair is coming up a month later in the transplanted areas. I felt I had little choice but to lose all the top of my hair (Stage 2) so I went for it and I would recommend Dr. Shapiro at the UBC Hair Transplant Center. A consultation is free and you will not be pressured into the decision. Dr. Shapiro is straight-forward and honest in the consultation, which may seem a little brisk, as it did for me. Dr. Jerry Shapiro also has a practice in New York.